Thread:Metal Mario875/@comment-30300307-20170719154045/@comment-26374068-20170720132557

Actually, Mario's flames are regularly MCB+. Bowser's I'm unsure about, I think he'd be comparable, but not equal, since he's an inferior fire manipulator to Mario. With the Fire Flower, Mario's pyrokinesis is twice as powerful, so somewhere around Low 7-C or 7-C. Bowser's and normal Mario's is straight-up 8-A.