Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (Canon, Composite)/Metal875/@comment-31816534-20171118124319/@comment-26374068-20171118191425

I said this due to a few contradictions.

You're very correct on Sonic getting stronger, but two things happen in Sonic Forces that make it impossible to reasonably scale Sonic to Infinite. With that said, it doesn't make sense Mania Sonic could take on Eggman with the overclocked Phantom Ruby, nor does it make sense for anyone else because they were very clearly stated to be inferior to the star Infinite created, which would make them below Tier 4's baseline. They could be High 5-A, though, thanks to Sonic's statement. :)
 * 1) Mania Sonic, the younger Sonic, needed the Chaos Emeralds and his Super form to beat Heavy King with a regular Phantom Ruby. But moments later in Forces, he can suddenly fight and damage someone with an overclocked Phantom Ruby, which contradicts pretty much all of Mania.
 * 2) Sonic and all of his gang were very clearly stated to die should the star Infinite created reach the planet. They were saying it's impossible to beat that, and without the Phantom Ruby Prototype, they would have never gotten rid of it. The Phantom Ruby Prototype shattered afterwards though, so Infinite really wanted, he could have just made another star, or even ten more, and they would have had no way to counter it. Despite Sonic getting stronger, he's stated very firmly to be unable to stop this star, and he would die should it hit. That's a Tier 4 feat.

I don't mind if you personally think Sonic should scale, I just feel like there's too much against it. But if Sega releases a DLC and Super Sonic is in it, and he takes on someone with the Phantom Ruby, like Infinite or Eggman, I wouldn't mind putting the feat in.