Thread:Adamjensen2030/@comment-30294856-20170705122400/@comment-30300307-20170707122410

Interesting thoughts you got there Paleomario66, my calculations was severely lowballed and I have a feeling that the calculations for Mario Verse and Sonic Verses will be very close assuming we use high ends. I will update my Solaris thread once Metal Mario875 makes the Dream blog.

And the only circumstance that I agree with Dreamy Bowser winning is if speed is equalized and he uses the Star Rod to wish his clones to fight Solaris in the past and future while Dreamy Bowser himself fights Solaris in the present.

Also according to the tiering system:

 Characters who can create and/or destroy 1001 to any higher finite number of universal 4-dimensional space-time continuums qualify for 2-B 

I also had a discussion with Metal Mario875 and he said that the void via the Chaos Heart took an unknown amount of time to destroy all universes in the Mario Verse assuming that string theory isn't used and Solaris took his time eating dimensions for lunch and destroying all existing timelines.

'''Also the tiering system doesn't mention the amount of time it takes to destroy 1,001 universes and higher to qualify for 2-B so cinematic timing is unreliable and even if we use cinematic timing to downplay Dreamy Bowser and Solaris they will still be 2-B anyway. '''

Correction: Destroying timelines does not equal to destroying time periods. Dreamy Bowser is very powerful but he does not exist in the past, present and future. Even if he one shot Solaris in the present then the past Solaris consumes his past and Dreamy Bowser starts fading away. Only Super Dimentio can technically beat him since he and Solaris have time paradoxal resistance 

Metal Mario875 and I agreed with the outcomes below:

Random Encounter (no power ups, items, no preparation): Solaris/Illumina solos the Mario Verse (including Paper Mario Verse since Mario has no canon)

Prep time: Draw unless we get technical and remove Time Paradoxal Resistance for all the characters to find the true technical winners and the answer in that circumstance is that Super Dimentio/Count Bleck solos the Game Sonic Verse

Also I calculated Mario's severe low end tier, according to this calculation Mario being powered by  120 Power Stars = '''2.8344e+37 Tons of TNT. Since he is a Star Child who possesses 1 Power Star in his heart then we divide the calculation by 120 and the answer is, 1 Power Star =2.362e+35 Tons of TNT which equals 9.8839529236 Foe which is still High 4-C, Impressive isn't it.'''

Even if I were to upgrade Base Sonic in the future to 5-A aka 7.2 Yotta Tons he would still be 32,695,304,379.47 times weaker than a severely lowballed Mario anyway lol

Do you have any questions?