Talk:Devil Mario (Canon, Power Star)/Metal875/@comment-33067344-20180107172136/@comment-26374068-20180108235147

@Bendy:

1. If Trigon has a reliable statement, and it isn't contradicted by things saying he would destroy it over time or that the person who said it is glorifying him or arrogant, then yeah, I'd interpret it as a legitimate universal. Also, maybe not always; I might have exaggerated there. But in the end, most of the time, it's in one shot. Also, I know what a hyperbole is. No need to link it. And I don't know if this is specifically an argument against Devil Mario being Low 2-C, or generalized, but if it's the former, it's not another character in-verse saying Devil Mario is universal. It's himself saying that's what his purpose is, and then the creator confirming that. If it's the latter, your analogy works, but there could also be more context behind it; that statement could be much more meaningful depending on other statements and such. It all really depends.

2. That's one example. More often than not, at least from what I've seen in fiction, it's intending for it to include space-time. Besides; Goku and Beerus' clash could be argued to be Low 2-C. I don't want to bring that into this, but it could.

3. Nothing contradicts full-power Devil Mario being able to destroy the universe. He never even got the chance to use his power before he was killed.

4. I know, but I've already explained how this isn't a hyperbole. In this case, Devil Mario has nothing to contradict his own statement, and because the creator confirms it, it's entirely valid.

5. Now here's where it becomes opinion-based. To me, WoG statements are way more important than feats; it represents what the creator intended. Yes, I understand that if it's critically contradicted, like with Mundus' realm being a universe, then yeah, it should be discarded. But there's nothing contradicting what Daniel stated about Devil Mario, and honestly? Most people nowadays know basic Science, which states we're in a 3-D universe with time. Most people do know there's space-time. And Devil Mario never got to use his full power; most villains don't. If he discarded every statement and limited it to what they showed, Super Dimentio wouldn't be multiversal, Solaris wouldn't be anything higher than universal, and several others would be nearly featless. If it weren't for statements, Zen-Oh would only be universal. What Devil Mario did was a casual feat; seriously, he walked, and he performed the 4-B feat. With that noted, his 4-B doesn't contradict him being universal at all. Also, again, I know about the Attack Potency chart. No need to link it.