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"Really, just wanted to say, Nagisa stomps, no matter what. :/ First of, ok, she isn't 5D in this battle, but she is protected by Goddess Madoka, who is."

Demigra isn't 5-D in this battle, but his magic is. Your point? Demigra stomps hard

"Demigra's magic might let him have Mid-Godly Regen (since he can regenerate from being erased from existence), but Nagisa can bypass it, due to her Non-Existence ability."

Ok? He can bypass Regen up to mid-godly as well

"In order to resist that erasure, you shold have High-Godly Regen. So, Demigra's Magic here is entirely useless"

That's IF she can use it on Demigra in time. She won't do it straight away whereas Demigra's first move is mind hax. Furthermore, you're ignoring the propeties of his Magic. Even if he's gone, his magic will still exist. Let's assume he's gone never to be seen again, his Magic will still be a higher dimensional figure for her to face, which she cannot defeat.

"And sure, it MIGHT be able to surpass resistances and immunities, but that is irrelevant considering Nagisa's hax. Right the moment Demigra is preparing one of his OP magica attacks, he's already death because of either Non-Existence or Law Manipu or many other things."

It does bypass. It isn't irrelevant and there's nothing she can do against his magc. Furthermore, Demigra, or Demigra's Magic doesn't depend on Demigra using it. His Magic is passively multiversal and is a presence everywhere, so he doesn't need to instiage it. The battle starts, his magic sets off on it's own, and she's done. Demigra has linked non-existence with existence and he has law manipulation as well. That's not special

"List of Nagisas's hax"

Ok? No point in mentioning them if you won't say why they help

"Since Demigra is not a trascendental being in this battle, as he's only 2-A, he'll be affected by that massive Conceptual Manipulation. I mean, the Law of Cycles can basically rewrite all the concepts on a Multiversal+ scale regardless of how stupid or absolute the concepts are. Sounds pretty OP."

She herself is also only a 2-A being, honestly the madoka shit is outiside help. Ok? Demigra's Magic is High Multiversal+ and has all the hax he can utilize.

"So, why Nagisa stomps: 1) Even if Demigra is 5D, she is protected by a 5D being anyway. 2) Demigra can't regenerate from Nagisa's Non-Existence. 3) Nothing stops Nagisa from overpowering completely Demigra's Magic with her hax. 4) Even if Demigra's Magic can bypass resistances and immunities, Nagisa has enough abilities to counter that, and also, i'd like to know why Demigra's Magic can bypass resistances..."

1) That doesn't matter. Demigra's Magic is 5-D, will bypass her immunity and resistance to mind manipulation and take her over. You're strawmanning this point" 2) Demigra can do the same thing. 3) Same goes with Demigra's magic. The only straw Nagisa is pulling on is her powers from Madoka, she herself is useless in this battle. 4) Prove to me she can bypass High Multiversal+ ranged passive Magic.

Why can it bypass?

Gods are immune to Demon God abilities

The Time Breaker masks, which were made through the Magic and evil energy, has shown to bypass beings with God-Ki and take them over.