Thread:CSaPForumWall/@comment-26374068-20170812051425/@comment-30294856-20170812141429

Oh, boy. This is going to be a long one.

Round 1:

Since we're using Standard Mario and base Modern Sonic, Sonic is faster (FTL compared to Massively Hypersonic+), but Mario's advantage in Attack Potency (Multi-Galaxy level compared to Planet level+) is so massive that Sonic could never even damage Mario. Even if we use the lowest end of Multi-Galaxy level (8.168e+68 joules) and the highest end of Large Planet level (1.12e+34 joules), then Mario is literally 7.2928571428571428571428571428571e+34 (7 decillion, 292 nonillion, 857 octillion, 142 septillion, 857 sextillion, 142 quintillion, 857 quadrillion, 142 trillion, 857 billion, 142 million, 857 thousand, 100) times more powerful and durable than Sonic! Mario also has plenty of ways to take out Sonic as well. He could freeze him with the Ice Flower then punch him, OHKO him with the Gold Flower, or use the mop he used in Super Mario World to erase an entire castle. The Mega Mushroom and Starman would increase his stats even more, which would just be overkill. Overall, Mario shitstomps Sonic this round.

Round 2:

Since this round has 2-D Mario at Small Star level and base Classic Sonic, who is only Island level, Mario once again has an insane advantage in Attack Potency and durability. Additionally, a lot of Standard Mario's hax applies to 2-D Mario as well. This means Mario has plenty of ways to take out Sonic despite being quite a bit slower (Massively Hypersonic compared to Relativistic+), such as the Gold Flower, the mop from Super Mario World, the Ice Flower, the Mega Mushroom, and the Starman. Even if Super Sonic were used, Classic Sonic would only be Planet level+ at best, still not anywhere close to completing with Mario, and he doesn't have a lot of the hax that Modenr Super Sonic has. Mario stomps Sonic horribly in this round as well, but not quite as badly as the 1st round.

Round 3:

Unlike the other two rounds, this matchup is actually really close, with both being at Multi-Galaxy level for fighting enemies that would conquer the universe. Mario's speed ranges from barely Superhuman to dodging lasers and even piloting at MFTL+ speeds. Sonic at most is Relativistic for from one side of Mobius to the other in less than twelve seconds. Mario and Sonic don't really have as much hax in the cartoons to my knowledge. However, in this case, I'd say Robotnik is actually far superior to Darth Koopa in this situation. The latter specifically stated, "Today, the Mushroom Planet. Tomorrow, the Milky Way. Next week, the universe will be the Koopaverse!" In this case, Darth Koopa would take a long time to conquer the universe. Eggman appeared to be a more imminent threat to the universe. Because of this, I'll have to go with DiC Sonic for this round.

Round 4:

This round is actually quite close, with both being at the extremely high end of 4-A, speed being equalized, and Sonic having no time limit to his Super form. Sonic X Sonic doesn't have a lot of hax in his Super form except for stopping time with Chaos Control. Though both are at a high end of 4-A, I think Sonic actually has an edge here. Sonic managed fight against and hold off Final Mova's gravitational repulse, which would destroy the galaxy. The highest end for 4-A, just below 3-C, is 1.267e+66 joules, while Bowser's (and therefore Mario's) Attack Potency is 3.138e+65 joules. That means Super Sonic, if we highball him, is about 4x more powerful than Mario. This is a highball though, and the difference may be even less. However, as far as I know, most of Mario's hax comes from other games. Sonic's Chaos Control could be enough to stop Mario for a bit, and allow Sonic to get in a good hit. Since the battle is so close, but Super Sonic appears to be slightly more powerful, I'm going with Sonic X Super Sonic for this round.

Round 5:

Okay, this one is really close. Both are Low 2-C with Speed Equalized here. Both also appear to be extremely casually Low 2-C, as Super Sonic was unaffected by the Time Eater's attacks, and Mario could fight with Grand Star Bowser, who is superior to base Bowser in the SMG series, who literally survived the destruction and rebirth of the universe in his base form. Unlike his DiC, Classic, and Sonic X counterparts, Modern videogame Super Sonic has quite a bit more hax (Energy Manipulation, Invulnerability, and Reality Warping). However, Mario also has some powerups which can help him match that. The Rainbow Star could help him temporalilly amplify his stats, which would give him an edge as Speed is equalized for this round. Mario could also increase his durability with the Life Mushroom as well. Unlike the Rainbow Star, the Life Mushroom lasts until Mario takes too much damage and has no set time limit. Mario also has Gravity Manipulation on his side, even being able to move in black holes just fine. No matter where Super Sonic teleports him, whether it is to another planet, the sun, or even a black hole, Mario would have no trouble surviving it or escaping. Mario also has flight in that game, as in Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario can fly to galaxies from Starship Mario completely without the use of a Launch Star. This is a really close match, but due to having a good arsenal of powerups and some useful abilities, I'm giving it to Mario in a really close fight.

Round 6: For this round, both are High 3-A and Speed is equalized, but Mario 64 Mario is at a higher end, with the worlds that the Power Star created being large enough to have multiple stars, and even whole galaxies. The world Excalibur Sonic fought the Dark Queen in was only implied to be the size of a planet. Mario's Attack Potency is so much higher, that there's nothing Sonic can really do. Excalibur Sonic doesn't really have a lot of helpful hax to back him up either, other than being able to slice his enemies with his sword or reflect certain attacks. The difference in AP and Durability is so massive that it's doubtful Sonic could even do the latter against Mario. Due to massively higher Attack Potency and Durability, as well as Sonic not having a lot of good hax, Mario easily curbstomps Sonic this round.

Round 7: Oh, boy. This is where things really get difficult. Both are Low 1-B, with Immeasurable speed. Here, what settles the match is who has the better hax. I'm leaving out Shiny Paper Mario as it only increases the stats of base Paper Mario, not while he has the Pure Hearts. One of Mario's major advantages here is that he has Time Paradoxal Resistance, as he is unaffected by the Void erasing the past, just in his base form. The Pure Hearts give him an infinite boost in power and durability. Unfortunately, a lot of Mario's and Sonic's hax would be ineffective on each other, as a lot of them include Space-Time Manipulation and other lesser things which both have already dealt with. Both can reset reality, which means they both cancel each other out. Mario, however, has a few things which give him a slight edge. The Showstopper, might be able to just OHKO Super Sonic, as they are exactly the same level of power and durability. Mario has also learned a few techniques from the Star Spirits which could give him a MASSIVE advantage. Mario could lower Sonic's power with Chill Out or put him to sleep with Lullaby. However, I'm not sure if Mario can use these without the Star Spirits. Still, Mario has a few other things he can use on his own. Power Lift increases the power and defense of Mario and his team temporarily, and Mario could use Art Attack to Reality Warp and pierce Sonic's defenses. It's a really close match, but Mario has a very slight edge due to hax.

Round 8: For this round, Luigi and Tails are included too. A lot of things don't change from Round 7, but Mario and Luigi have even more of an advantage with their Bros. Attacks and Luigi having the Chaos Heart. Though it is not as powerful as the Pure Hearts, it gives Luigi Resistance of Life and Death Concept Manipulation, making it even harder for Sonic and Tails to actually kill him. Also, though Titan Tails is on the same level as the others, he doesn't have the hax to back it up, so he would probably go down very quickly. Now, Sonic is not only outnumbered, but he doesn't have any extra advantages over the Mario Bros. Mario has the same edges as before, and more since Luigi is with him, and they have plenty of Bros. Attacks they could use against him. For this round, Mario and Lugi should win with some difficulty.

NOTE: Since my profiles are nearly identical to Metal's, there's no reason for me to do the Bonus Round.

Tally of Votes:

Round 1: Mario

Round 2: Mario

Round 3: Sonic

Round 4: Sonic

Round 5: Mario

Round 6: Mario

Round 7: Mario

Round 8: Mario Bros.

Overall Winner:

Mario: 6

Sonic: 2

Inconclusive: 0

Winner: Mario