Thread:CSaPForumWall/@comment-26374068-20170819050742/@comment-32286613-20170901185546

Withersoul 235 wrote: I'm here to debunk literally everything that has just been said.
 * 1) Simply because he can supposedly "hypnotize Bill into comitting suicide", he wins? That's absolutely horrible logic. Also, by that logic, a completely normal 10-B hypnotist beats The Beyonder simply because he can hypnotize him into commiting suicide. Because this is an NLF, Adam's vote should technically be invalid since he included a Fallacy.
 * 2) Who said Dimentio could rip out souls, and that he has a father? Count Bleck isn't confirmed to be Dimentio's father, it's just a theory - something you can't use in debating. Dimentio doesn't have Power Replication, so he can't mimic Bill's ability to do so. Even if he did, he'd have to get Bill to make a deal with him.
 * 3) Dimension D also makes Bill stronger. So that'd be suicide, since then Bill would be able to stomp Dimentio just like the heroes did.
 * 4) Bill is smarter. Dimentio has a lot of knowledge of his possible 3,000 year lifespan, but Bill is Nigh-Omniscient and has knowledge and experience of a 1M+ year lifetime.
 * 5) So does Bill. Bill also takes stuff serious and also commits several murders.

Wait a sec, you are talking to me or to Metal? Either way, while you are right on something, you forgot some important points:

1) And..? Sorry, don't want to sound rude, like i said many times before, i am truly lucky: i have a friend like you. But, i can't see your point here. They are both High 1-C, but Dimentio has an insane amount of hax. Mind control is an example. A 10-B would lose to the Beyonder even if he has MInd Control, because the 10-B can't literally do anything to him. The Beyonder is an higher dimensional being. In fact, the Beyonder's body itself is FAR bigger than the universe, because of his Higher Dimensionality. He can literally manipulate/embody higher dimensions an manipulate inferior ones, such as 3th dimension and etc, and a human is 3th dimensional, so yeah. Also, an higher dimensional (except 4th dimensional), is Immeasurable in speed, so the human wouldn't even touch him in the first place.

2) The Black Tribe members, like the Light Tribe members, were able to steal souls in order to create pixels (with the exception that the Light members create good pixls, while the dark members create evil pixls). Dimentio is BY FAR the strongest black tribe member.

3) No. Bowser's arrogant, illogical, and unlike his game counterpart, he isn't famous for his intelligence, and he also lacks logic and common sense. Bowser was the only one that said that Dimention D also makes him stronger. Which is also inconsistent, since Mimi, O'Chunk and Nastasia were feeling weak in Dimension D (when they weren't helped by Dimentio himself). How does Bill stomp? Paper Mario, Peach, Luigi and Bowser didn't stomped.

4)Yes, but Dimentio is a tactician, and his plan never failed (except when he had to fight the heroes, but the heroes were simply stronger than him, so yeah). Bill on the other hand likes to toy with enemies TOO much, and he never takes anything seriously.

5) You're right. When i said that Dimentio likes to murder, i didn't want to say that Bill is kind, i simply want to point that out...lol, they both like murders so i don't know why i said that in the first place