User blog comment:Paleomario66/Mario's Higher-End feats: Outliers or not?/@comment-33067344-20180809224134/@comment-32286613-20180812183935

I'm here to say just a few things. I'm not sharing my entire opinion on this, but i want to address a few things that are wrong. Mainly something that Seb said, since i disagree with Paleo for many reasons but showing them will basically start a debate and i don't want that.

@Sebas, First your Kirby example is irrelevant in this context. While you are usisng an example to show that bottomless /=/ infnite, the example you used doesn't help your argument at all as the contexts are different. Bottomless pit and bottomless stomach, while both hyperboles, are incredibly divers and do not match each other (on-topic) at all. You should use different, valid examples. (and there are valid examples to disprove the bottomless thing)

Still Sebas, while it's true that Mario outsmarts Bowser, he never needed any amp to beat him. Luma doesn't count at all.

The Luma, as seen in SMG2, enveloped Mario in a light aura, which allows Mario to do the Star Spin attack. There's no proof the luma gives Mario a better attack potency, and there is nothing that says that Mario got a physical amp. Sure, it says "power" (which could refer to either Star Spin or Attack Power, so yeah), but it says "new" as well, and Mario wasn't able to do the Star Spin before the luma became "part of him", which obviously means that the Luma simply allowed Mario to perform that new power (Star Spin).

And the Star Spin isn't the only method of attack in SMG. Mario can damage final bossess empowered by Grand Stars with ground pounds as well.

Not to mention that in later games, without the Luma "amp" (Luma returns to Rosalina at the end of SMG2), Mario can still perform the Star Spin attack, and still without the Luma "amp", Mario can defeat characters empowered by Green Stars in 3D World, and Green Stars are equal to Power Stars.

And in Super Mario 64, Mario can defeat the first boss of the game (that is empowered by a Power Star) with no Power Star amp. And there are many others examples i could mention.