Thread:Maverick Zero X/@comment-32286613-20170926141515/@comment-32286613-20171001152237

Thatsonicguy108 wrote: ArceusBowser44 wrote: Thatsonicguy108 wrote: Please cite the exact instances of where such statements were made about their chances of defeating the Biolizard.

Metal Overlord doesn't have a clear cut feat to scale from so he's irrelevant when discussing the cap of Super Sonic's power.

Sure. 1)

Sonic: Where does he get all that power? Is this the power of the chaos emeralds? Shadow, this is really tough! Shadow, are you ok?

2)

Sonic: Shadow, Biolizard is strong! Your power is getting weaker! Hey, are you ok?

And also, Sonic and Shadow had a lot of trouble in both beating Biolizard and stopping the Space Colony Ark, which is why Shadow had to sacrifice his life

Metal Overold isn't irrelevant at all, as i have seen in your profile he is still Eggman's strongest machine of the Adventure Era, so he is still Multi-Solar System, and Sonic had A LOT of trouble against an emotion-less MSS machine, despite the fact that Sonic himself has much more emotions than Metal Overold and Metal Sonic in general If the Biolizard was empowered by the Chaos Emeralds then that nullifies this low-end.

While Metal Overlord is indeed 4-A, he's only gains that rating through powerscaling. He doesn't perform an actual quantifiable feat and thus is irrelevant when  discussing the cap of Super Sonic's power. By that logic, I should add the defeat of the King Phantom King andImperator Ix to the Tier 2 section.

Biolizard was never empowered by the MAster Emerald or the Chaos Emeralds.

But, the difference is that Metal Overold has a good reason of being at least 4-A (Still the strongest of Eggman machines from the Adventure Era), while King Phantom and Ix haven't reasons of being tier 2 at all (Imperator was empowered by the Master Emerald, but again emotion inconsistence)