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Zenkaibattery1 wrote: Sorry, but that's an extreme strawman

Your only argument is "It's useless" and you haven't addressed the propeties I have given

"Mind Hax literally is one of those abilities that ignores conventional durability and shouldn't be impressive based on a 4D surviving it > a 3D. Most hax is impressive if it can work on higher D beings, but it would be about as stupid to say that Plot Manipulation is bound by dimensions. Literally all he needs to list is the range, not that an ability that IS LITERALLY MEANT TO BYPASS DURABILITY works on Higher Ds.

Mind Hax? Useless. Like really, irrelevant. It disappears into non-existence, like most of Demigra's hax.

Demigra's infinite 4D magic? Useless as well. Nagisa can control the law of an endless multiverse, the one which defines everything."

1- We are using a 2-A Nagisa. The magic is 2-A and can transcend into High 2-A even if Demigra dies and is erased from existence. The Magic will still bring him back. Nagisa isn't assumed to be High 2-A in this battle

2- The magic is 2-A and can transcend into High 2-A even if Demigra dies and is erased from existence. There's nothing she can do about this. The Magic bypasses resistances and immunities to mind manipulation

Furthermore, it's the basis of all his hax. It will do Mind manipulation + everything else he can do while bypassing immunities and resistances. She can't get out. To clairify. Demigra can't bypass, but his magic can Ok, i guess i'll have to address all the points again..

Really, just wanted to say, Nagisa stomps, no matter what. :/ First of, ok, she isn't 5D in this battle, but she is protected by Goddess Madoka, who is.

Now, let's start again.

'''Demigra's magic might let him have Mid-Godly Regen (since he can regenerate from being erased from existence), but Nagisa can bypass it, due to her Non-Existence ability.

Every Law of Cycle Assistant is a concept that is part of the Law of Cycle, and as i said above, they can fully manipulate the Law of Cycles since they are Godoka's assistants and their job is to control the entropy of the Multiverse for Godoka, who reigns sovereign over the Multiverse.

The Law of Cycles is the same law that allows Madoka to destroy the very concept of Witches and the reality they are in, the multiverse of witches, and they turned it in a non-existent multiverse. ^The last part was stated in one of the several mangas, i don't remember which though. I need to look at those again.

In order to resist that erasure, you shold have High-Godly Regen. So, Demigra's Magic here is entirely useless.

And sure, it MIGHT be able to surpass resistances and immunities, but that is irrelevant considering Nagisa's hax. Right the moment Demigra is preparing one of his OP magica attacks, he's already death because of either Non-Existence or Law Manipu or many other things.'''

List of Nagisas's hax: Law Manipulation, Immortality (Type 1, 3, 7, 9 and 4, Godoka (a 6D being) protects them), Conceptual Manipulation (pretty much almost every and any concept, and all the fundamentals concepts that make up the Multiverse, with the absolute concept being the one of "Hope"), Memory Manipulation and Erasure, Origin Manipulation on a small scale, Non-Existence (can erase the multiverse of Witches), Existence Manipulation, Multiversal Entropy Manipulation, Aether Manipulation and Nether Manipulation, Extra-Dimensional Energy Manipulation, a Spiritual and non-corporeal body, Conceptual Lordship, Balance Manipulation, Higher Consciousness, Primordial Forces Manipulation and possible Life, Death and Concept Trascendence (Godoka trascends Heaven and the Law of Cycles, which is the Heaven of the verse and acts as a sorta of Astral Plane. By trascending the law of cycles, she even trascends the very law, which not only defines the very multiverse (and even the non-existent multiverse of witches) in the broadest and purest sense, but it's also the embodiment of all the concepts of the multiverse).

Not to mention how Madoka's Law had to rewrite the concepts in all universes. Also,it was lated confirmed that Madoka's law was changing all of space. Since Demigra is not a trascendental being in this battle, as he's only 2-A, he'll be affected by that massive Conceptual Manipulation. I mean, the Law of Cycles can basically rewrite all the concepts on a Multiversal+ scale regardless of how stupid or absolute the concepts are. Sounds pretty OP.

So, why Nagisa stomps: 1) Even if Demigra is 5D, she is protected by a 5D being anyway. 2) Demigra can't regenerate from Nagisa's Non-Existence. 3) Nothing stops Nagisa from overpowering completely Demigra's Magic with her hax. 4) Even if Demigra's Magic can bypass resistances and immunities, Nagisa has enough abilities to counter that, and also, i'd like to know why Demigra's Magic can bypass resistances...