User blog comment:Paleomario66/Mario's Higher-End feats: Outliers or not?/@comment-33067344-20180809224134/@comment-33067344-20180813012130

>"Still Sebas, while it's true that Mario outsmarts Bowser, he never needed any amp to beat him. Luma doesn't count at all. I know you never mentioned Lumas, but i just want to say this as it is actually relevant and people think Lumas amped Mario in the SMG games."

Already provided examples a few replies above. Btw, strawman fallacy; I didn't bring up the Luma.

Red Herring; the argument isn't about the Luma at all.

>"Mario can defeat characters empowered by Green Stars in 3D World, and Green Stars are equal to Power Stars."

Appeal to Authority. Mariowiki stating something =/= being truth. Get actual scenes of a comparison between the Power Stars and the Green Stars; or else this is a moot point. Scalling featless things to something without proof is an association fallacy, by the way.

>"And in Super Mario 64, Mario can defeat the first boss of the game (that is empowered by a Power Star) with no Power Star amp. And there are many others examples i could mention."

That only makes the non-amped feat inconsistent.

>"And from my experience with Mario, i can tell that there are way more times Mario beated an amped Bowser. The only time Mario beated Bowser with amps is SM64, when Mario was empowered by the Power Stars, and even then Bowser himself was empowered by Power Stars as well, and that is also kind of irrelevant considering in later games Mario beated tons of enemies empowered by Power Stars and Green Stars with no amp (and when i say no amp i mean no amp, he doesn't even need powerups)"

Let's see here...In all Super Mario Games that aren't RPGs/Paper Mario (of which they're like, twelve or something like that), Mario outsmarts/beats Bowser via amps. Therefore, Mario struggles with base Bowser more of which he does against amped Bowser.

>"and even better, Grand Stars, which are FAR more powerful than Power Stars."

Burden of Proof. You haven't provided reasoning on how they're comparable—let alone stronger.