User blog:Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot/dragon ball xenoverse

okay, this is taken from vs battles.

1. If Beerus fought in the time nest, he would destroy that dimension of time, aka the 4th dimension. They specify the dimension of "time" not a Universe. Beerus is completely uncaring and not afraid at all, as is Whis. he is willing to go nap even back at his temple while such a threat looms over the multiverse from Demigra to.

http://i.imgur.com/y3x6giA.jpg

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2. Mira and Towa exist outside the flow of time, even during their battles, Demigra, Goku, Bardock, the patrollers etc have also fought outside of time in the crack of time, and can indeed fight against Towa and Mira as well. This shows they can freely leave the flow of time and multiverse, and exist and move outside of it.

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3. It is stated Demigra controls all of time and all of space after absorbing Toki Toki, this applies to the multiverse as seen where he effects multiple timelines.

http://i.imgur.com/0cZ2Dpe.png

4. Demigra is stated to be able to create his own history, he plans to do this after destroying the time vault. This is specified as his own, and he controls space and time to.

http://i.imgur.com/VOLxt0p.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QQkjB5u.jpg

5. Towa and Mira planned to fuse the demon realm with Universe after obtaining Toki-Toki's egg.

http://i.imgur.com/dMvshzm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6psuCeW.jpg

6. Towa even states she can easily rule over time and space with the egg, which is a multiverse.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">7. Even Old Kai in the time nest is afraid of Beerus destroying everything from within the U7 timeline, no time nest. Beerus is even stated by him to be able to end the Universe.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">8. The kai of Time states Beerus could destroy everything, all history, this is when he was not in the time vault.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">9. During Bardock and Mira battle the power was so great all of history disappeared from the clash despite it taking place outside time.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">10. Towa controls an entire timeline with the egg to the point even the kai of time and Trunks can't help you.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">11. It is stated that Mira when removing his limiter had the power to tear through and destroy not just the Universe but dimensions, Towa states even leaving the Universe would not save her, and considering she exists outside the flow of time and can leave the multiverse, yet thought there was no escape, it means Mira's attack would even exceed the 4D multiverse and destroy outside of time to.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">12. It is stated in v-jump that Demigra's power "After managing to gather enough Kiri, Demigra turned into a Demon God - giving him black magic that transcends human knowledge, he wields an overwhelming power"

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<p style="font-size:14px;">13. Demigra also stated 3 times he would erase the future warrior from history and existence like he never existed.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">14. It is confirmed by Kai of time that Demigra was indeed warping time, the Universe, all of History everything, and the future warrior saved all of it.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">15. As far as how many timelines there are, we see directly in Xenoverse that there are many such as for the movies and GT, each scroll is one theoretically, and it is even explained by trunks that all the time fragments are alternate timelines, they result in scrolls, but even when fixed and added to the main scroll the timelines remain regardless, if to many scrolls accumulate then it can destroy the Universe by destroying the time vault. So there are even many more timelines that have been fixed or are not immediately harmful that are not in scrolls to.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">In fact in DBO which is the prequel it is stated in one of the official guides that Mira created a "myriad" of alternate timelines, and in Super Pilaf states there are "tons" of timelines. Note Pilaf was able to fix a problem with the time machine that Bulma was having trouble with, and was making giant mechs even in Dragon Ball, so he is a genius and understands time travel. And if we connect Shin Budokai which is a sequel to fusion reborn and 2 years after buu, so technically can link to Xenoverse since it also has FR timeline and many others, then according to Cell there are endless timelines.

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<p style="font-size:14px;">So there you have it. Many feats and statements that the god tiers, especially Towa, Mira and Demigra exist outside time and space and can maneuver outside it, even while in battle, the god tiers can control manipulate and destroy not just the Universe but all histories, even the dimension of time as stated with Beerus by kai of time, and Mira after releasing his limiter had the power to even destroy not just the Universe but tear through dimensions to the point even Towa who can leave the multiverse and 4D space-time would still not be safe from his power. Then he got a buff on top of that, and he would scale to other god tiers as SSJB Goku and the patroller could take him on at his peak.

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;font-size:14px;">they specify dimension of time, and they normally would say universe or timeline. But even if it were a timeline that's still tier 2, especially since Beerus would tank the destruction of all the multiverse by destroying that and was not worried at all, neither was whis.

<p style="font-size:14px;">2. They exist outside the flow of time, and can leave the multiverse and battle outside of time and space, iirc if you can freely leave time and space and fight outside of it even against beings that are in it that is beyond finite speed. I mean lots of other characters got upgraded for moving outside time and space.

<p style="font-size:14px;">3. Not quite. The time nest is destroyed and all time and space is as a result. Thus the patroller is logically beyond time and space. All that really showed was toki toki could equal demigra since he could interfere, it does not change the fact Demigra has his powers and could do the same, and is stated to control it all. in fact just a egg from toki toki is able to give towa enough control over the timeline that it vetos kai of times ability to interfere, logically having toki toki itself is even superior to a portion of its power from an egg.

<p style="font-size:14px;">4. I do agree he planned to use the time nest for the destruction, but he did at least have significant control of all histories and warp all time, histories and everything before hand, as confirmed by kai of time in X2, and he had the ability to make his own timelines and control all time and space without it afterward, so that would be tier 2 for sure.

<p style="font-size:14px;">6. True the eggs make a timeline, but they are not necessarily limited to that power. Towa thought the destruction of the egg would destroy all timelines when it was caught by Mira, and that there was no escape even outside of time. So its potentially power is implied mutliversal, and she states she can control space and time, which is a lot of histories.

<p style="font-size:14px;">7. True he can, however this is stated in response to Beerus getting angry outside the time nest in U7 timeline and as an immediate threat, there is no indication of it being due to the time nest, and this happens multiple times outside the time nest. Also Beerus is uncaring if he is caught in such destruction so clearly he can tank it anyway no matter how it happens.

<p style="font-size:14px;">9. I'm confused on how removing all history is high 3-A. Wouldn't removing even 1 timeline be low 2-C, and history includes a multiverse so in this context minimum of 2-B?

<p style="font-size:14px;">10. Agreed, but it does show that she is capable of high levels of control vetoing kai of time completely like that, and logically that would scale to demigra who had toki tokis power and not just that of an egg.

<p style="font-size:14px;">11. It stated his core would overload, it is still his power, and towa even says he far exceeded any of her calculations and she confirms that there is no escape at the end and that everything is done for, the whole multiverse would go up in smoke, and even outside time theoretically since she thinks she can't run. Then at his peak he absorbs her and all the eggs energy and becomes even more powerful still, considering this, the fact his power only rose substantially when he already was maxing out and about to detonate and take the multiverse with the explosion I'd say that's solidly minimum of at least 2-B, at least 2-A if we use the endless worlds statement.

<p style="font-size:14px;">12. It was more just a interesting quote that applied to Xenvoerse. Also considering Bulma understands time travel and the level of tech and such in DB it is impressive to transcend human knowledge.

<p style="font-size:14px;">13. I agree, but it would be very useful for taking out high end regen guys who can come back from nothing.

<p style="font-size:14px;">14. Warping all history and everything is a multiverse, and this does not refer to the time nest theory, so logically warping a multiverse is 2-B minimum I would think.

<p style="font-size:14px;">15. Well easily 2-B size with just the "myriad" statement, or the amount of scrolls/time shards. 2-A if we take the endless worlds statement.

<p style="font-size:14px;">All in all we know Beerus can tank or destroy all history aka the multiverse, absolutely everything without issue.

<p style="font-size:14px;">Mira even outside his final form has the power to destroy all timelines in his explosion and even outside time as towa says they are all doomed and will die no matter if they try to run, and said he would tear apart dimensions and exceeded all her calculations.

<p style="font-size:14px;">The egg towa had seemed to have the potentially to threaten the multiverse if its power was unleashed, and she controlled it, and mira absorbed all its power on top of his own which was maxing out.

<p style="font-size:14px;">Demigra controlled all time and space, and can create his own timelines without the time vault, he even warped the whole multiverse before as confirmed in X2, albeit he wanted to use the time vault to completely obliterate it.

<p style="font-size:14px;">Bardock and mira clash wiped out all history, which is many timelines.

<p style="font-size:14px;">I mean honestly I can't see putting the god tiers below 2-B, 2-A if we use the endless worlds statements.

<p style="font-size:14px;">[|all credits to this man. and forget about dragon ball downplaying from vs battles.]