Thread:Metal Mario875/@comment-30300307-20170719154045/@comment-26374068-20170719201924

Mario and Sonic were never aiming to destroy anything. They're always trying to protect it from their enemies. So the argument that the characters aren't at a certain level due to area of effect is absolutely wrong. Otherwise, we'd have Planet level Beerus because he never destroyed the universe, Wall level Saitama because he never destroyed the planet, and so on and so forth.

The argument that they hit their weakspots is wrong, too. It doesn't mean that the spots Mario and Sonic hit them in are any less durable, much less to the point where the Tier 4 Bowser is somehow Tier 6. Mario can attack Bowser pretty much anywhere in the RPGs, Galaxy, and so on, and all the hits do the same damage. Mario would not lose to Bowser in a one on one. Galaxy alone proves that, as they both fought one on one, infuriated at the other, using nothing but base forms. Mario won due to superior intelligence, speed and attack potency. Bowser lasted due to superior sprinting speed, durability and physical strength. Overall, the two are close. And his Starman? Not Tier 4? Has he played any Mario game at all? The Starman always one-shots Bowser, regardless of where you touch him at. And the Power Stars turn into black holes on screen. I don't get where he's getting this from.

Sonic attacked the Ifrit on the head, which has no evidence of being a weakspot. In this case, he needs to prove how these are weakspots.

And he also needs to prove how these weakspots lower their durability several tiers.