Thread:CSaPForumWall/@comment-30294856-20170812221432/@comment-26374068-20170812232552

This one'll be fun! XD

Round 1:

Well, this one's an unfortunate speedblitz. MHS+ against MFTL+. Hefty difference, and both are threats to the universe, so they're around the same level of power. I'd give it to Broly.

Round 2:

This one's much closer. The captains seem to create the star with a massive space around it very casually, so Luigi should have the advantage in raw A.P. Goten, however, is FTL+ against Luigi's FTL. So Goten should be around 20x faster in base form, so that's an issue. But then again, comparing the sheer power is easily in Luigi's favor. Neither has really great hax, but Luigi's electricity could halt Goten long enough for him to get in a great hit, especially considering he can fire it in bursts. Overall, Luigi has more advantages, and Super Saiyan doesn't affect much. So I'd give it to Luigi.

Round 3:

Mario is on a very high-end of the tier, and Buu... well, he's unknown as to what extent. We know he destroyed multiple galaxies--but how many? How long did he take? Judging from the scene, it seems like he did it fairly quickly, but overall, I'm skeptical as to saying he's near Mario's level here. Even if he was, both have energy manipulation, both are martial artists, etc. But only one actually has a mind to use, and only one has Candies out the wazoo that allow for invulnerability, limited particle manipulation (which is really OP), etc. I give it to Mario, and pretty easily.

Round 4:

Goku is on a higher level than Mario, outright. Multi-Galaxy+ against plain old Multi-Galaxy. However, Mario has tons of hax... Goku can't resist being turned to solid gold, and with White Tanooki, he definitely can't hurt Mario. Overall, I give it to Mario thanks to power-ups.

Round 5:

Galaxy Mario is at a disadvantage of A.P., as Goku is two or three times stronger. But honestly, that doesn't make any difference, as Rainbow Mario becomes four times stronger and faster, and Galaxy Mario is already capable of speedblitzing. Crossing the universe in ten seconds >>> crossing the universe in three hours. Rainbow Mario can cross the universe in 2.5 seconds! With the Life Mushroom, Mario can ease up on damage, and with Boo Mushroom, he can prevent Goku from even touching him. With the Red Star (or even normally), he can fly like Goku, etc. Overall, Galaxy Mario definitely takes this.

Round 6:

Almost everything from round 5 applies. Mario can beat Goku, and Luigi can beat Vegeta. With Bros. Attacks included, they can become even faster (Magic Window), and they can protect themselves as they attack (Spin Pipe). Vegito Blue is a whole hell of a lot stronger, but lasts so little time, it wouldn't even matter. Individually, Goku and Vegeta never work together, while the Bros. do. Speed and power-ups, plus superior teamwork, allow Mario and Luigi to take this with relative ease.

Round 7:

Okay, so with M&L Mario restricted to Dream Team, he's 2-B against Goku's 2-C. Goku is very fast, probably able to cross the universe in (guesstimating) 12 hours. And against Mario, that makes him far faster, allowing him to blitz. But blitzing does nothing here.

Let's calc some stuff real quick. 7,670,250,000,000,000,000 universes on Mario's part, that he reduced to literal dust. let's assume Goku can destroy 1,000 universes.

7,670,250,000,000,000,000 / 1,000 = 7,670,250,000,000,000. Mario is 7,670,250,000,000,000x stronger! With our Attack Potency page, we know all he needs to be is 120x stronger to blow Goku apart. This is well more than enough. Once Mario catches him, be it with stopping time utilizing the Battle Cards, or getting a lucky hit, he wins. And with Goku being the type to yearn to see his foe get stronger, I have no doubts that Goku would lose this.

Round 8:

This fight is the same as Galaxy Mario VS ToP Goku. Bowser is weaker, but hilariously faster. Beerus might have Existential Erasure, but Bowser has Matter Absorption. Honestly, Bowser could just touch Beerus and absorb his matter, killing him in the process. With a massive speed advantage, that shouldn't be an issue. And with Dark Matter Manipulation, he could vaporize Beerus, or sling galaxies at him if need be. Overall, Beerus is doomed here.

Round 9:

Oh boy... this one... THIS one, XD

Sunshine Mario is 2-C, able to obliterate ten space-times. But Zen'o can destroy twelve space-times. Very minoot advantage, but it's there. And Zen'o has superior range, along with speed being equal. However, Mario definitely takes hax and weapons. He defeated someone (Shadow Mario) with FAR superior hax to Zen'o, and with this being bloodlusted... well, which character is more willing to kill? Zen'o seems to be the type that, unless you're the size of the universe and maniacally laugh, he doesn't use his strongest attacks right away. Sunshine Mario doesn't care what you are--he'll attack. This gets weird very quickly, since comparing the two's natural preferences of attack, Sunshine Mario gets the advantage with bloodlust.

If Zen'o attempts to nuke the space-times, Sunshine Mario would still remain, and then, he can't do much to him. However, targeting Sunshine Mario himself with existential erasure would actually do something. That type of hax is one thing Mario hasn't encountered. However, he can still take someone on who can induce disasters, regenerate and grant wishes. Overall, Zen'o and Sunshine Mario are... very close. They can't really do much to each other. I can see Sunshine Mario immediately running in and using his superior combat abilities and tactics to overwhelm Zen'o. But I can also see Zen'o erasing Mario. One issue with Zen'o's erasure though, is that it takes a small amount of time to charge up. Mario could very well interrupt the process and kill Zen'o in the process. Overall, extremely close. Could go either way. But in tiny quantities, Sunshine Mario holds the advantage, so I give it to him.

Vote Tally:

Round 1: Broly.

Round 2: Luigi.

Round 3: Mario.

Round 4: Mario.

Round 5: Mario

Round 6: Mario Bros.

Round 7: Mario.

Round 8: Bowser.

Round 9: Mario.

Overall Votes

Marioverse: 8

Dragon Ballverse: 1

Inconclusive: 0

And with that, my bet goes to the Marioverse.