Thread:ArceusBowser44/@comment-32286613-20180831115249

" "Profoundly" speaking to me by making a long, yet needless Argumentum ad verbosium that just doesn't make sense to begin with, as fallacies are a flaw on your argument? "

This is the kind of thing i was talking about. It may be needless, but if you fail to understand the nature that lies behind what i was trying to say, your point is also needless. It may be true that i did commit a fallacy since you weren't talking about Power Stars nor Green Stars, but the intent was not "debunking" (since again, you never talked about Power Stars or Green Stars), the intent was simply talking about it even if it's out of context, just to give my point of view. Your Red Herring is completely useless in this scenario, i can say whatever i want in a debate as long as i don't offend the others, thus i can freely explain things just to give further points. You literally just created a debate out of nothing because you claim you never mentioned those (which is true), yet however the claim itself wasn't directed to that, but it was just a further explanation to show Mario's feats that doesn't need to be argued as it is just an additional piece of proof that wasn't involved in the debate at all that, again, was nothing more than "something more to add".

Also, again, you just didn't exactly get the meaning of the phrase, which frankly irritates me a bit since you shoot sentences towards me that literally have nothing to do with what i said at all, or are just a misunderstand. I wasn't profoundly talking to you, the "profoundly speaking" was just in-context a metaphor to say that essentially, the more "profound" meaning that lies behind my claim wasn't understood.

" You cannot dismiss a substantiated argument by providing no substantiation yourself; burden of proof. Anyway, half of your arguments were weak connections; which are an association fallacy. "

To be honest, not exactly getting what you are saying. Are you talking about the fact that i replied to your "Stars aren't the same" with "Your only argument is that stars aren't the same?" ? If that is what you are talking about, you are obviously correct, since stars AREN'T always the same, and i don't need proof to debunk you, simply because i CAN'T debunk you. You are right, stars cannot be assumed as same all the times. But here again, you completely fail to even get what i was trying to say. My point with "is that your only argument" wasn't to debunk you claim (again i can't), but was just a simple question. The only weak connection in my argument was that both Power Stars and Green Stars are referred as stars in SMG, but my other points are NOT. And to be honest, it's even useless to talk about my other points, because those are mainly subjective: you are free to trust Luigi or to not trust him. He said e found a new Power Star (while referring to the Green Star). The context here is vague though; i won't deny it. He said a found a new Power Star, however with "new" we don't know if he means literally something completely new (like, completely new) or simply because he found another one. Personally, considering how much both Power Stars and Green Stars are treated as same, i think they are the same.

And my other point is also something pretty subjective. We see a Power Star with a green question mark, and because of that i simply deduce that there is a different Power Star instead of the same, yellow one (but again, i think both Power Stars and Green Stars are the same because of how treated they are in-game, and also because the wikia, which takes the stuff from the game, shows that both are the same, so that might imply there is some real info behind it. Also, IIRC in the guide book they are both classified as Power Stars, just that the Green One has its own section as it is a rarer one). 