Thread:Metal Mario875/@comment-30300307-20170719154045/@comment-30300307-20170720110222

I agree with you but my friend who is a Mario fan believes that Mario and Sonic aren't as OP as we think.

The reason why he thinks Bowser is stronger than Mario is that Mario had to grab his tail and throw him around. He thinks that Mario's ground pound doesn't destroy the earth. He has played lots of Mario games and his favourite is Super Mario 64.

Sonic in Sonic Adventure defeated Chaos 6 who was powered by 6 Chaos Emeralds. The 6 Chaos Emeralds powered the Space Colony ARK which blasted the moon. The Low end of that feat is 682.92 Zettatons and the High end of that feat is 1.53 Yottatons and Base Sonic had to hit Chaos 6 4 times to make him shatter into pieces. Even if we use the Low end of that feat then Base Sonic would be at least 170.73 Zettatons which is Planet level anyway since he is cocky so he holds back until he decides to get serious.

He is also asking for proof where Power Stars turn into Black holes. Can you give me links to Youtube videos and/or blogs showing where they turn into Black Holes in cutscenes, gameplay, etc?

I agree. Going by that logic, Dark Gaia's weakspots would be Planet level since Sonic had to hit each of his eyes about 10 times and they didn't even shatter so Dark Gaia's weakspots are at least 2.5 times stronger than Chaos 6 if you get what I mean. Also why do you rate DiC Mario 5-B? Is it because Cartoon/anime Mario is different from Mario from the Games? Do you also go by consistent feats or the Powers that the Power Star granted Mario?