User blog comment:Metal Mario875/Mario's Massive Multiverse/@comment-33067344-20180615171052/@comment-26374068-20180617201438

@Sebas:

1. Tell me something, Sebas. When you take a bunch of rocks and put them together, do they suddenly begin moving on their own?

You cannot stick a bunch of non-sentient things together and create a fully functioning sentient being with rational thoughts. The other colors must have some substantial degree of sentience in their own right for their mixture to create a fully sentient Black Paint like this.

As for the proof on the Big Paint Stars being sentient... "Looks like it's fainted from being so dried out... OK, Mario! Jump into it and wake it up!" All qualities of living beings. Furthermore, once you jump into it, it opens its eyes and flies you across the areas you've been, painting them. And it also talks, and can transmit memories and speak telepathically by, quote on quote, "painting your thoughts," or in a more metaphorical sense, "bringing your imagination to life." So yeah, the Paint Stars are sentient, and so is all the paint that comes from the Big Paint Stars. Hell, from what I just posted, we can now gather that not only is life itself given to the characters from color, but their thoughts and ambitions as well. You do know what that means, right? The ability to dream is nothing more than a consequence of what color grants sentient beings.

2. You misunderstood what I was using that to prove. I wasn't using that instance of paint being sentient to say this paint must be; Color Splash does a fine job of proving that on its own. I'm using this as more evidence to prove that paint, on its own, can sleep. Without anything to be atop of, or to possess, or whatever. Petey in Sunshine is made purely from goop, and is still capable of sleeping.

@Arceus:

"..Metal, i'm sorry, but that is a very flawed argument..

''Colors do not dream. That's just wrong. People seem to think that because color give life to Toads and such, and also gave life to Peach, and thus colors can dream. Assuming that color can dream becaose of that is simply stupid, sorry for saying that."''

It's not a very flawed argument when the game depicts it that way, now is it? Colors do dream because they're what give life to everything and, from what I posted above, what grants those types of brain functions altogether. If color is the very essence of sentience as a whole, it's only natural it has the same abilities as what it grants those who are given life by it, correct? That isn't something "stupid," that's just how inheritance works.

"Colors give indeed people life in Color Splash..But that's about it. I mean, it should be obvious that because someone is alive is thus sentient. However, that does not mean that colors give sentience, it allows people to be alive, but when people are alive it's obvious that they are sentient."

...What? Arceus, if color gives life, and those who are alive are now sentient, then by simple deduction we can determine that color thus gives living beings the ability to be aware of their environment. If life is what gives them the ability to remain sentient, then the thing that gives them life thus gave them sentience.

"The main point is, the "colors can dream" stuff can only apply to beings that are actually sentient. Of course, Toad have their own will, desires and stuff, so if you drain themselves from their life (color), it's obvious that they become nothing more than a dead body (which was showed in Color Splash).

However, if you drain sea from its life (color), the sea will indeed become a dead body, but nothing will change at all, because the sea isn't sentient, you simply drain it from its color."

I've already explained this in my other message. My point was never that literally everything painted gains sentience; it sure as hell has a form of it though, since what gave it life does have sentience. Paint talks, moves, and grants thinking abilities to living beings. You guys seem to be trying to get that, solely because some things that are given life by color aren't up jumping around and talking suddenly means it's all not alive on its own, despite dozens of pieces of evidence and mere deduction pointing otherwise. If Black Paint is fully capable of rational thought, naturally the pieces that made Black Paint will be to some degree too. If sentient beings are granted sentience by color, naturally color should have it to some degree too. And if the thing that sprinkles color around the world is fully sentient as well, what else is there to prove? Why is it that literally every single thing must be handed to us for us to accept it when we're given literally everything else to point towards this? It could even be considered game mechanics that every color doesn't always act sentient; imagine how difficult programming would become if literally everything in the world was moving and talking.

"And please, don't mention the fact that sea can actually move, because sea can't move, the " Ferocity " of the sea depends on many things, like meteorological climate and activity and etc.

''For example, there was a gigantic coin that was drained from its "life", and wasn't yellow anymore, but rather became white as it was a dead body. When Mario gave life to it again, nothing changed, except for the fact that now the coin is yellow.''

''And that applies to everything that pretty much isn't Toads. And Peach, as showed in the final boss."''

Au contraire, my dear friend. The sea's ability to moved or even interacted with is given to it by color. Its living aspects are completely nonexistent otherwise. And besides; I've already explained why the fact that everything isn't jumping up and down doesn't mean anything.

"The info about the black paint being sentient is not exactly the best either, as we see that it can only possess people..Does it mean it is sentient? Not at all. In fiction, there are many machines that can possess/control people's mind that aren't sentient. Assuming this isn't the case of the black paint without info is simply wrong."

It doesn't just possess people necessarily; it actually speaks in the final boss fight, too. Even so, look at how it possesses people; it moves on its own, covering them against their will, restricting them so that they can't resist, and forcefully takes over, altering appearance and personality. How is that not sentient? It is aware of its environment quite massively in such a case if it knows, "hey, Bowser's here, let's possess him." And the machines argument is...just wrong.

Look, machines take control of people usually by altering their brain. The machine is programmed to do this; it's an automated thing that it doesn't choose to do. That's why the people brainwashed by machines are usually then subsequently told what to do by whoever took them over; because the machine isn't programmed any further than "wipe memories, make them loyal." In this case, the Black Paint can straight-up move on its own; it doesn't need someone to move it, put it on the other guy's head, or be programmed or shock them or whatever. It forcefully takes over all on its own. So, uh, yeah, I do have my proof.

"Not to mention the amount of times something non-sentient and liquid like paint or water was showed to spread all over the place and control people (which is what the black paint did) in verses like Sonic, Timmy Turner's verse and etc."

Context is killer. I don't know those situations outside of one instance in Sonic with Chaos, but Chaos never mind controlled someone and he was fully sentient; you can actually see his brain. The Black Paint is fully sentient as it does this stuff on its own, and everything is shown and said to be given life and thus sentience and thus thoughts by color and paint in this game. In those, I highly doubt the same was said. There's much more evidence you're ignoring here; if the Black Paint simply covered Bowser and never spoke, and there was no other evidence to imply sentience, then yeah, I agree; it shouldn't be assumed to be sentient. But look at all this evidence, Arceus:
 * Black Paint moves
 * Black Paint talks
 * Color gives life to everything
 * Big Paint Stars, what creates paint, are fully sentient
 * Thoughts themselves are given life by paint
 * Etc.