Thread:ArceusBowser44/@comment-26374068-20180407221432/@comment-26374068-20180408181030

Looks like you're outta here now. Couldn't even apologize... Well, let's pick this apart. Piece by piece.

1. I do know what happened. I've been told by literally everyone. You see, I actually bet that you would accuse me of "not knowing" when I know the full weight of the situation.

2. Sorry, I trust Bat and Wither a fuck-ton more than I trust you. If they say it happened, then I believe it.

3. Still trust Bat and Wither more.

4. I screenshotted Bat's and then verified that what he said actually happened. Your "explanations" were constant insults and saying Bat was "Wrong" and trying to shove a fake apology down his throat.

5. I ain't one to judge? Once you get back, go ahead and screenshot one time I did it in a serious conversation. I would love to see it.

6. How many times do I need to tell you this before I get it into your thick-ass skull? Here, let me grab a microphone and shove it into your ear: '''Sebas and Bat have told me these things. I've actually seen it happen several times. I understand the situation when the people who are involved explain it to me. I do like to educate myself before charging in head-first.''' And now you're insulting me? Get your attitude in check.

7. Who literally called him a fucking pet before he started doing any of that? Arceus, whether you like to believe it or not, '''you brought Sebas' hate onto yourself. At least you could apologize, but no. If you did, I'm sure Sebas would. Yes, two wrongs don't make a right, but a comment like that has got to hurt more than "dumbass."'''

8. Sebas likes to spam pictures jokingly. He's literally done the same thing to me, and even Hadou. '''It's a joke, stop taking everything he does so seriously and lighten up. Even after he and I have had harsh debates, we have made up. But you can't seem to get over yourself long enough to try!'''

9. And here you go insulting him even more. Great, I'll add a day to your four days out of here.

10. '''Start thinking before you type. I won't accept "he's young, he doesn't know any better" or "I didn't mean it" for an excuse anymore. I'm tired of literally everyone defending you with that. I've been wanting to do this a long time, Arceus, and I finally got to. And all your crap is just accumulating. And calling someone fucking HOMELESS won't go without some ridicule. You could have gotten off easy. I'll add a day from here on with each insult you make to me, or anyone else. I hope you enjoy your time out.'''

11. I judge someone who literally called another flesh and blood being a "pet" and another homeless. I'm an idiot for resolving what you've done on here? I'm an idiot because I'm taking care of a kid that hasn't gotten any other lesson taught to him from anyone else, and is on a damn rampage, calling everyone sick, twisted names? Six days.

12. "Oh no, I felt injured at the time, so I'm going to attack someone and call them a fucking pet because they hurt my feelings." Arceus, ''' grow the fuck up. Seven days.'''

13. Why didn't you link the game then? If it exists, wouldn't it be logical to link that statement rather than link the same wiki you're trying to prove is "wrong"? What if the Master Emerald did have a statement like how the PotS did? What would you do if Maverick literally came back and showed you a statement? I suppose you'd say you'd concede. And yes, I believe that. But the fact you used the same wiki you're trying to prove is unusable against a person that literally explained to you that it's a placeholder is blatantly hypocritical.

14. Yeah, you're right. I do look for reasons to say my character would win. Who wouldn't? Even if they make the slightest bit of sense to me, I'll say it. Gotta give credit to my persistence. And the only time I got angry at you was on chat; go ahead and quote me on that thread if you want. I never once insulted you until you started laughing at my arguments, then subsequently called me annoying.

15. So you let your emotions go into a blind rage? I don't know if someone like that should just be floating around here. Seems kind of dangerous, don't you think? Wait until you slip up and tell someone to kill themselves simply because "my emotions were out of control." '''Stop. That excuse may work on others, but it won't work on me. Eight days because I'm supposedly "blind" for pointing out your behavior.''' Also, Bat reacted that way because of a bad day and you call him terrible for it? Another example of your hypocrisy. 'Didn't you literally just'' say that you don't mean it and it's only a matter of how you feel at the time? Oh, but Bat's at fault, right? Because you guys pushed him a little too far by constantly calling him a bad server owner and viciously telling him to "stop"? Funny story, he actually did stop.''' Maybe next time ask him politely and he actually will stop.

16. More lies, Arceus? Bat didn't forgive you. Not that I can blame him, you did try to get him banned, threaten him, call him homeless, and constantly insult him even when Sebas and I told you to stop in the "temporary server." If Bat forgave you, '''prove it once you get back. Because I don't believe you; I never saw him forgive you on that argument between Composite Mario VS Composite Sonic, and he says he never forgave you. I trust what he says he did over what you say he did.'''

17. For a second there, I thought you'd actually be reasonable and speak that paragraph calmly and reasonably. Then I seen you accused me of never admitting when I'm wrong and saying that you did admit you were wrong... Nine days.
 * Sigh

Either way, that's not what I heard; you were just as much of a person screaming at Bat when he deleted the channel because you guys were rough-housing about his game as anyone else. Wither already apologized, and so did Sebas. Yes, you did, but you continued to insult Bat des. But I will say one thing; '''Sebas, if you stay friends with Arceus, be careful what you say. I know he insulted you and never apologized, but try not to be too harsh.'''

18. Bat kicking you because you're yelling at him in his server VS you calling him fucking homeless because he kicked you from his server? I think I've made my decision of which is worse.

19. Then you're making fun of his name? "Annoying" because I misunderstood a very possible misinterpretation because you're saying a living human being lives in a cave? I'll continue to interpret it the way it's literally structured, thank you. Ten days.

20. Making fun of you? Hardly. You insulted a bunch of people and caused a bunch of trouble on here. It's literally my job to maintain peace and quiet on here. Hence, you won't find anything you do outside of here on here besides drama that led up to problems on CSaP. So... I'm an idiot for doing my job and telling a kid to lighten up on others? '''God, man, you really want this vacation. Eleven days.'''

21. You did. Wither never denied it when I asked him, and Bat outright said you did. Wither's your friend so of course he won't admit it, but Bat will, and Bat was the one that talked to Wither. If he really did do it, then Bat would still be banned. So your logic doesn't add up.

22. Another insult... Actually, I'll let that one slide. You're already adding up quickly, and that one's not too insulting, especially considering there weren't even any analogies in there. Analogies are comparisons, Arceus. I only talked about things you've done wrong.

23. Finally, thank you. You admitted something was wrong. But for the Peach and Wario stuff... yes, you were wrong. Once we get to 24, I'll quote the conversation for you. Cause in 24, you lied again.

24. Yes, I commented because you asked me to. Yes, you did compliment my response. But Arceus, if you think someone in their right mind won't come back and reply to defend their reasoning, sorry, you've got another thing coming. Considering the OP isn't even meant to vote (or "correct" anything either. Look at all my threads; even the one where you all said Infinite loses to Fusion Zamasu, I kept quiet and counted your votes, despite believing Infinite would make it to Zen-Oh personally), I was in the right to reply. Especially considering you were the one that asked me to comment there. And... I called you a Peach wanker and annoying? Before you called me annoying? Now you've got some bad memory. Let me quote the entire thread for you.

Me: Okay, so since nothing much is specified here, I'll assume it's a mixture of all keys at their highest. That would mean A.P. and speed is equal, except for in some cases.

Let's go into hax for a bit. Peach has more, obviously. But how useful is it here? Not so useful... you see, Wario has the edge greatly. Peach's best aspects here would be her love manipulation, infatuation and such. But Wario is one of those characters that can easily resist such a thing.

In canon, such things have worked on Mario and Luigi, who are guys that actually love and care about Peach. Wario is one who... doesn't really. Wario is a guy that loves farts and money. Such powers wouldn't work on him, as, canonically, he's only ever shown liking Waluigi and, sometimes, Mario, and that's it. I guess what I'm trying to say here is Peach would try to infatuate him, and he wouldn't care. He'd be more focused on the money in the vicinity. Furthermore, Wario is naturally a more violent guy than Peach, and some of his hax gives him too much of an advantage. For example, his Disguises and such he can transform into in an instant, and some make him twice as durable, invulnerable, far stronger, and all sorts of stuff. He could become twice as fast as Peach, thrice as strong as Peach, thrice as durable as Peach, and all sorts of stuff. Also, his Hypnosis spell was casted over an entire kingdom and turned all its residents into zombies for Wario. His range far exceeds her, he can take stats themselves, and he's more willing to kill and at least a bit resistant to Peach's best assets as his personality naturally allows such. Not to mention that he can absorb her powers and use them against her, so while she has more, that simply gives Wario an advantage.

With that, I'd say Wario takes this pretty handily.

You: Hm..good response! But i would like to say a few things:

Wario has no resistence to Peach's love manipulation

You see, in basically every game, Peach's love abilities were able to infatuate/mind control basically everything...even rocks, as showed in Mario Baseball. Plus, Peach's abilities are showed, during gameplays, to infatuate everyone..boys, girls, idiots, mushrooms, cactus (the cactus guy from Mario Sport Mix)...

Wario was no exception. If Peach was able to kiss him/one of her heart was able to touch him, well, no more arrogant Wario.

Wario's personality doesn't give him an advantage at all, considering how dumb he is and how arrogant he is..sure, Peach's a pacifist, but Wario never tkes things seriously anyway.

Peach can counter Wario's disguises w/ her Star/White Tanooki/ potions from RPG

Also, Peach also has absorbtion, as showed in Mario Kart Double Dash and in Puzzle and Dragons: Mario

Sebas: Wario due to reasons above

The only times Peach's love powers worked on Wario were times when it'd only affect him for a few seconds. We've never seen it work heavily on anyone other than, like, Mario, Luigi or Bowser.

Also, Wario likes to act dumb, but he isn't that way at all. Also, Wario has never not taken a battle seriously. That's a clear misconception--he likes to act dumb in the midst of battle, but he has never held back or underestimated someone.

Also, she could pull that off, but unlike those weapons, Wario's disguises aren't limited. Give her some time to wear those power-ups down, and they're as good as gone. That's not the same case for Wario. And like I said, he'd go for the kill first anyway.

Not to mention Wario-Man completely stomps Peach (Low 2-C VS At least Low 2-C), and amplified by disguises and such, he'll definitely destroy her in one punch, which is all he needs.

As for her absorption, she could only do that with a heart and even then, she could only absorb two attacks. Wario can do it a lot more.

You: I agree with everything that you said, except a few things, aka the things that, IMO, make Peach win.

As showed in baseball, Peach's infatuation can actually last at least 15 seconds..this is enough time for Peach to amplify her stats with her magic/weapons and kill Wario.

Also, i just find out that Wario isn't as dense as you said: after Shokora kissed him, Wario not onl blushed, but sma hearts were floating around him, aka, the same effect that Peach does to Mario when she kisses him. Peach is not only more acctractive than Shokora, but she can augment love in others, as showed in her Mario Tennis animation: Mario is already in love with Peach, but after Peach kissed him, Mario literally went crazy, twice (Mario's animation and Peach's animation).

Also, Wario-Man isn't anyway enough to kill her: He is only more powerful than Peach, but not enough to "completely stomp her"

Me: Peach's love being used on Wario, though, only lasts a few seconds in Sluggers. We should take the times she's used it on Wario as priority over the times she's used it on others--it represents a far better conclusion of how it would work on that specific character. And you're saying those few seconds are better than Wario's hypnotic powers, which would be an eternity? Wario is not only more willing to kill, so he'd pull out such stops first, but his "turn you into a mindless zombie" power is better than Peach's. Not to mention he can take statistical advantages permanently compared to Peach's temporary, and swap between disguises while Peach can only use one power-up at a time, so he can easily take this.

Didn't know about the Shokora scene. Thanks for letting me know. Either way, Peach being more attractive is an opinion; there's no canonical statement for that.

Really? Because I remember you saying that Dark Fawful would lose to Super Sonic for the very same distance in power, even though Dark Fawful was more haxxed. :/

Doesn't matter either way, since Wario can increase such gaps regardless. Turn into his thief disguise and use the Power Flower, and he'd have Multi-Universe level durability, and his power would be way above Peach's. And that's just an example of what Wario could do here. Can I also say that, White Tanooki is vulnerable to poison, right? Well, Wario's farts have been shown to toxic on a few occasions, so I see him countering just about any advantageous power-up she has, assuming she gets the chance to use it, that is.

You can think Peach wins, but I do think Wario wins this pretty handily.

[Out of my text, but the debate should have ended there. I tried to end it. Guess who kept on going, despite there being a rule against the OP voting?]

Adam: I'm going with Metal's vote and his reasoning.

You: First of all, Wario's hypnosis has a Country level range, Peach is MFTL+, so it wouldn't be hard for her to escape that.

No. Peachs love powers acts the same on everyone, at least during gameplays. Sure, Peach's love power is obviously more useful against Mario or Bowser, but it's still great against Wario.

Since Wario was attracted by Shokora, Peach, who has done the same AND has Love Augmentation, should be able to do the same thing, except that she can do that MUCH better than Shokora.

He He, Sark Fawful's haxxes simply weren't useful at all. Sure, He has VARIETY, but Fawful's haxxes aren't nothing special, especially since his strongest haxxes takes time, and in a real fight, at least IMO, Super Sonic would speedblitz, considering that IMO SMG>Mario Party>RPGs>3-D games>Sport games>2-D games (when it comes to speed)

Super Sonic's around Mario Party speed, which is, again IMO, FAR greater than RPGs.

Lol, some weapons amplify her stats by a lot (going to give you a link, let me found the item first), so again Wario's arsenal countered.

Hm, lol, Peach really doesn't need her love powers to make everyone crazy, considering that even if she just kisses someone, the boy/girl kissed would start to go crazy anyway.

[Ahhh, and here's where the laughing starts. Before I even threw a single insult.]

Me: You know, this "lol" stuff is getting a little annoying. It seems like you're laughing at what I'm saying.

The same could be said for Peach's hearts and such; Wario is MFTL+, he can dodge them. Regardless, unlike Peach's hearts, Wario's spell is invisible. So I don't see how she's going to dodge and somehow know about the spell when she can't even see it.

You do know people are more attractive to different people, right? Assuming Wario's attraction to Shokora is equal to his attraction to Peach is baseless, we know he doesn't like Peach as much. Augment zero attraction, go ahead. 1000 x 0 is still 0.

Dark Fawful could literally suffocate him with gas, or have the Dark Star kill him from the inside, like with what it was doing to RPG Bowser, who is stronger than Super Sonic. RPG Bowser would have died from the Dark Star being inside of him if Blizzard Midbus wasn't there; how was Fawful's hax useless? And we were using my profiles, so their speed was pretty much equal.

Wario has shit that can amplify his by a lot, too. I don't see how this is different.

And you think Wario is just going to sit there and let Peach, someone he doesn't even like, kiss him?

[I didn't call you annoying, I said the "lol" stuff was annoying. And for good reason, because it represents laughter; you were literally laughing at my arguments even though you invited me there and broke the OP voter rule. Who was in the wrong?]

Sebas: Agree with Metal here, can I add something?

Wario's best hax are invisible, unlike Peach's

Wario doesn't like Peach, and thus, he isn't an idiot that will let everyone kiss him

You: Lol, YOU are getting annoying, honestly. Is it just me, or you'll simply find an excuse whenever you're in trouble? I'm not talking about Peach vs Wario, considering that i do think that this battle is extremely close, but i'm talking about other situations. Don't start to become like a guy from Vs battles.

First of all, I KNOW. I was just saying that Peach could do the same, especially since she has love powers that basically work on everyone. Or, you just want Wario to win. Gotcha.

^True, about the hypnosis thing.

However, you should seriously see the amount of hax that Peach has..

First of all, her telekenises: her telekenises is more useful than Wario's hypnosis anyway: Wario still needs to do movements in order to cast that spell, on the other hand, what Peach needs to do is raise her hand. Done.

Second, while Wario is in the air, Peach can simply debuff him A LOT, as we can see in Mario vs Bowser fight, her debuffing skill are 100% overpowered. So, we have a stomp in stats now.

Third, Peach has sealed away the Dark Star with simply a gesture.

Overall, Peach has many counter to Wario's hypnosis, and BETTER ones.

I mean, Peach has debuffed Bowser in a second, she can do the same for Wario, so that Wario would do slow movements and Peach would kill him

[Ahhh, look who insulted me. And where was the Peach wanker statement? Go back and look at that thread. You literally lied straight to my face, Arceus. Good job. Twelve days.]

Sebas: Calm. Down

You: You are saying this to me, but not to Metal?

I think i need to speak with Wither...about something that is happening. Something that is going to ruin the wiki and is going to make this wiki a copy of Vs battles...

[Even though I'm defending my reasoning and said "lol" was a little annoying, you say I'm out of control after caps locking several words and calling me names. And now, you say that Sebas and I are ruining the wiki and making it like VS Battles? The worst thing is that you deny doing this stuff before I quote on quote "insult you."]

You: Anyway, i'll add the votes.

My comments were pretty much just to stop the Peach downplay anyway

[So now I'm a downplayer? Hmm... You claim I called you a wanker. That comment doesn't exist. And then you call me a downplayer. Odd.]

You: Wait, how do i add votes..?

It seems that i can't edit this thread

Sebas: Do a comment then.

Btw, sorry I was sick of all of this. Can you forgive me?

[Sebas apologizes for telling you to calm down... Wow. He didn't need to do that. And yet you called him my pet? Back then, Sebas was fine with you. After you called him a pet is when he started to hate you. Just as I said; you brought his hate onto yourself.]

Me: Hahaha. And so the truth comes out.

I don't even know why I wasted my time here; I knew this was bait to get me to come here and you overstate Peach's abilities. So, I'm leaving. :)

[Now I say you overstate Peach's abilities. Not wanker. And this was after you laughed into my face, called me annoying, and then said Sebas and I were ruining the wiki and I was a downplayer.]

You: Well, what you expected?

Overstate Peach abilities...You know, there is something different between fully research a character and overstating.

I can say the same thing about Mario for you. You barely know half of Peach abilities, i don't even know why i am talking with someone that doesn't even know a character, and you himself admitted that you hate her, a lot.

At least i showed Peach's abilities true power with actual facts.

It's not like i'm saying that she's omnipotent, i'm only saying that Peach is still powerful

[And there's your statement that you're "factual" and I'm not. Interesting. Even after I ended it, you wanted to keep going.]

So, I think you were indeed wrong. And you lied to my face. We're at twelve days, right? Do make sure to keep track.

25. I don't recall Sebas breaking any rules as of late on here. This conversation is on you and now you're childishly pointing fingers.

26. I haven't seen that on CSaP. Report it to the Rule Violation Report with a link to the comment when you get back; unless it happened on PMs in Discord, in which case, I can't do anything about it. As I said, my job is to regulate this place. But as I said above, Sebas, be careful what you say if you are indeed saying these things. Please.

27. That G+ stuff extended into stuff related to CSaP. The entire conversation was about how you lied to Wither to get Bat banned.

28. I prefer researching Mario, thanks.

29. I prefer researching Mario, thanks.

30. Shut my mouth? '''Arceus, if I was allowed to, you'd be banned permanently already. I won't "shut my mouth" until you learn some fucking respect, you brat.''' Let's extend this to two weeks for the hell of it; fourteen days.

And don't worry; I'll avoid you. I don't want you to be around me, either. But if you break rules, you can bet I'll be back.

@Bat & Sebas: You didn't need to comment here guys, but I appreciate it greatly. Either way, I'd suggest avoiding Arceus until he learns to calm the hell down.