User blog comment:ZeroTwo64/User:ZeroTwo64/Madoka is High 2-A ~ "5D Madoka Debunked" Debunked/@comment-30654492-20181129042339/@comment-30654492-20181204144918

'''“The Puella Magi verse contains 4 dimensional space and Madoka has rewritten al the universes before ascending to a higher plane. What does that mean? It means that each universe didn't have its own version of Madoka anymore, but there is a single Madoka (Ultimate Madoka) for all the universes and she existed in 4 dimensional space.“'''

>Yes it does contain a 4th Dimensional Space. That’s irrelevant if Madoka didn’t exist in it prior to ascending to a higher dimension. She existed in a 3rd Dimensional Space and thus her ascending to a higher plane is 4th Dimensional

>That’s blatantly wrong. Madoka having a singular version of herself after having rewritten the multiverse doesn’t make her 4-D. For starters effecting a multiverse doesn’t make you 4-D, just means you can efffect that level. Secondly numerous 4th Dimensional entities have singular versions but are just that, 4-D

'''I used that to explain what "beyond the stars" means. It isn't an association fallacy at all, because I use them for something related to the topic.'''

>You ignoring the possibility that it’s being in a literal sense. Which as I shown with The Manga, is likely in a literal sense given she’s beyond the entire universe in a higher plane

'''That's not of 5 dimension works. Even if a character transcends a timeline it is 5D, because it goes to a higher plane than a 4D reality, which is 5D. However, Madoka transcends all the infinite universes of the verse. How do we know that? Kyubey stated that Madoka wasn't a member of that universe anymore. The Puella Magi verse doesn't mention the word "Multiverse", but uses "World" or "Universe" to talk about the whole multiverse. In this case, Madoka doesn't just disappear from the final timeline, but from each universe of the "World of Witches", the Puella Magi multiverse. In each reality there isn't a single memory of Madoka's existence because she disappeared from every timeline and ascended to a higher level of existence.'''

>That’s also blatantly false from a scaling and scientific standpoint. Transcending a single Timeline or Space-Time is only 4-D. Existing beyond a small snippet of the 4th Dimension doesn’t make you 5-D. This is why to be 5-D, you have to transcend an infinite number of 4th Dimensional Space-Time Continuum’s

>That doesn’t mean she transcends all universes. At best that would suggest she exists on a higher level of the multiverse but isn’t transcendent of it completely. To be 5-D, you have to be transcendent of infinite universes, effect a 5th Dimensional construct or be 5-D. Madoka meets none of this and thus is 4-D