this scale was made by Danimatronic speed (me) and a friend (channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@mightyquinn4352 )
name: mother
origin: the Radiance fnati games https://gamejolt.com/games/OblitusCasa/356260 https://gamejolt.com/games/fnati/829806


gender: female
age: possibly many billion years
classification: god

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxYBcyt1vKg_gfOkFJLcQrpqVHnfnN040X First off, each universe mentioned (they are exact copies of each-other) would be infinite in size as both by mortimer and the devs themselves. Mortimer states his world (the universe fanti takes place with since the show exists with in the same universe structure essentially where mortimer comes from) is in a loop and never ending, and we know this isnt not hyperbolic as we proceed to see his realm repeating endlessly as he states proving his words to be exactly as stated. Next the Devs statements agree with this universe struture as they they state "the infinite world" they opened up for us, this is not hyperbolic as this is intially reffering to the verse itself not the fan-made games as the verse has no fan-made creations before said statements meaning they are directly stating how the verse they built functions, plus this is further supported by the fact other in-verse characters state the same thing about the universe structure.

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxvkHsZ5ECtSyoO865zTbpvrSuRtVUBHvQ https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxah5Re-XCqMSj4IetIaXQwI3Jb1fTQ3Jj?si=PcRNhu7Ua-KGPTCe alrighty lets start the explanation for this: she states "Even after the countless amounts of times I have seen this play out" she is referring to the events of fnati and the player pulling his shenanigans to the members of the cast, since these events cant happen multiple times in the same timeline its logical to note that she is talking about other parallel timelines that are exact copies of one another, same events and same ending. The argument of other parallel timelines is supported by others in-verse characters like W.A.N.K and Sparky, and even the devs themselves. W.A.N.K talks about the existence of parallel timelines as he failed to achieve his goal in one and plans on using another same parallel timelines to try again. Sparky even mentions that you need dimensional travel to traverse to each dimension/universe which further supports each universe being infinite in size and being seperate timelines (4D structures). The devs even say that mother was discussing the other branches of different timelines and the small difference like all the different versions of george. Now to where this scales, based on statements besides the devs and mothers, this would auto make the cosmo low multi. Taking mothers and the Devs statement we can arguably say the cosmology scales to multiversal to multiversal+ as mothers "other branching timelines" were stated to be countless amounts (amounts showcasing this is not talking about size but actual different timelines).


Now to discuss why countless in this context could mean infinity: Infinity is stated to be "something boundless" or "larger then any natural number". infinity and ordinals/cardnals are things beyond normal countability which any natural numbers would include all positive and negative numbers. even if you dont believe that sentiment, the word countless provides the same fucton as infinity as describing something beyond the normal set of all countable numbers, even being used as a synonym to infinity by cambridge, collins, merriam webster, and even more. Cambridge is a valid source of info since they are a accredited high end university like oxford https://www.cam.ac.uk/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnZKOMZ2om8 Proof that loop doesnt mean literally looping-
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxEF2UW-CQ14hsXctp6iEBDG2O1MlA4qTu?si=GyNZ1Tp9_uet8K87 Mother embodies the entire cosmology


the Games themselves are called a connected universe meaning the multiversal constructs inside fnati would all be under a sudo name of universe even though its a multiversal construct. The devs state that hourglass created the fnati universe which would mean the multiversal construct itself inside, which is fitting since mother would be on par and has similar statements that scale her to the cosmology of multiversal. With all the consistency between mother and hourglass and the "universe" they are apart of could realistically grant them both the tier multi to multi+ (this is an official statement from a game dev about the TLO games and has canonically shipped mother and tlo hourglass)
https://gamejolt.com/p/what-do-you-mean-there-isn-t-a-timeloop-venfpmkw The idea of multiple timelines (in a multiverse sense) is further pushed by recent responses from the devs, which were made in response to "debunk" per say the statements of mortimers realm being an actual loop but it mainly reffering to his suffering of walking endlessly in his realm of hell. multiple statements from the post: Its all a loop
- "This voice line is easy to misunderstand, and I think people take it at face value way too much. It really has no meaning to our lore at all.",
- "Mortimer does exist in the FNaTI universe away from Discovery Island, but he is not aware of FNaTI or the events that are taking place there. The "loop" he is talking about is the Suicide Mouse cartoon itself, which is an endless loop of Mickey walking. It's pretty simple",
this had been happening over, and over, on a scope greater than anyone can ever comprehend!" - Henry's Monologue
- "Sigh. Okay, I guess I can see where people are coming from here. This was not intended to be any sort of confirmation of a time loop or "cycle" though. This is Henry telling the player he has been the one to die in every single story connected to the greater universe." (this further pushes the idea of the larger multiverse which is all canonized proved multiple times over),
- "It's kind of hard to write timeline stuff without, well, having to use terms related to time. So a lot of the terminology used in Casa in reference to it is vague. Some intentionally so, as we wanted the exact nature and linearity of the different versions of FNaTI's coexistence to be unknowable and incomphrensible"
- "I guess I can be funny and say we pulled an MCU. We pretty much did, except way before that concept got extremely old and tired out. There is some sort of "multiverse" I guess, but it's not a multiverse in the traditional sense. It only exists to gratify and acknowledge the other versions of FNaTI and it's fangames, and it has added a lot more purpose to characters such as GOD/MOTHER, Henry, The Face, and more.",
- "Some people prefer the old versions of FNaTI. That's cool, they're canon! Some people prefer fan-made stuff. Cool! That's canon too. FNaTI has always been a big sandbox for people to play with, even before we came into the picture."
https://gamejolt.com/p/frequently-asked-questions-8-1-24-fgu4n4b5
- Is this game canon to Casa? "yes, this game and Casa are a part of a duology. there is also supplementary material like Addendum: Discovery Island and our fnati troll games. i have also considered writing a few sourcebooks for the games to help expand the universe the game is in.",
- Is Hypnagogia FNaTI 3? "no, it is a spinoff game set in a separate timeline of The Tree. as of february, no one from radiance works on that project and we no longer have anything to do with it.",
- Are all of your projects set in a connected universe? "yes".
NOW- LOW COMPLEX MULTIVERSAL ARGUEMENTS (5D):




- In the study of higher-dimensional spaces, if two structures exist parallel to each other yet remain entirely separate, they require an additional dimension to accommodate their separation. This principle stems from the idea that dimensions are independent axis along which objects can be distinguished without overlapping. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension
- For example, in a 2D space, two parallel lines can exist without requiring a third dimension because they are still part of the same coordinate system. However, if two 2D planes are parallel yet do not interact within their 2D framework, they must be embedded in a 3D space where they are separated along a third axis (height). The same logic extends to higher dimensions: if two 3D spaces are parallel yet fundamentally separate, a fourth spatial dimension is needed to account for their distinction.
- This concept is foundational in theories of higher-dimensional physics, including string theory and M-theory, which propose that our observable universe may be a 3D "brane" existing within a higher-dimensional space. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brane_cosmology
- The idea of requiring an extra dimension for truly separate parallel structures is also reflected in models of hyperspace and tele-parallelism (made by einstein). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleparallelism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperspace
I went overkill in explanation as this wouldn't make sense to the naked eye but overall in physics it stands to logical reason. Therefor, these concepts suggest that for two structures to be fundamentally distinct and parallel without existing in the same framework, an additional dimensional axis must separate them, reinforcing the necessity of higher spatial dimension.
- HOW THIS WOULD APPLY TO FNATI
Everything I am about to discuss is all connected to each other canonically from the different games the developers have made in one connected multiverse: Next I am going to list what each scan and video is proving:
now to explain how this connects back to the higher dimensional arguments from earlier: If each individual universe is infinite in size, that means they are not finite 3D constructs but extend indefinitely within their own dimensions. The existence of multiple such universes suggests a multiversal structure where these infinite sized realms coexist. However, for these universes to remain separate while still being part of an overarching system, they must exist within a higher-dimensional space that allows them to be distinct entities while still enabling traversal between them. This aligns with higher-dimensional models in physics, such as M-theory, where infinite 3D universes (branes) exist within a higher-dimensional bulk.
Now, connecting this to Mother’s statement and the existence of parallel timelines: if these universes are also separate timelines, then they must exist as individual 4D constructs (3D space + time). If there are countless timelines with identical events playing out, then we are dealing with an organized structure of 4D realities, meaning they exist within a fifth-dimensional framework. The fact that Sparky mentions dimensional travel as a necessity further supports this—if traversal between these universes requires specific dimensional mechanics, then they are not simply layered in a linear fashion but exist as distinct entities within a greater extradimensional space.
In conclusion, the evidence I provided supports a multiversal model where infinite-sized universes exist separately yet are connected within a higher-dimensional framework. The ability to travel between them and the reference to distinct yet repeating timelines suggests that these universes are not just independent but are structured in a way that requires higher dimensions to contain them and allow for movement between them.
now for some random ass things she can do:
she can: Turn into mickmick (basically weaker mother) she can duplicate herself as seen in the boss fight, she appears in both forms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82EUHggW5NM she also upscales the toons since she raised them and protected them
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxQ-44s2_nh104mhS0bR_onCEKW_9ADaMq STRENGTH/AP: multi+-Low Complex multiversal via embodying the entire fnati cosmology
speed: omnipresence via being the multiverse, she appears where she wants in it
intellect: not very clever, she can hide from jake however actively weakened herself to kill him, she hasn't shown many iq feats
dura: multi+ -Low complex multiversal via cosmo embodiment
experience: stated to have "always been here" + she is the cosmo possibly many billion years old
abilities: can copy herself, can turn into mickmick, can become a non physical being (who is capable of killing you in the oblitus casa final boss) capable of creating a small white void (her cutscene in oblitus casa) and can cause hallucinations
stamina: can go for at least 6 hours attacking you
OVERALL SCALE: 5D (low complex multiversal)
feel free to ask any questions about the scale